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| Rinna wrote: | | Griven wrote: | | Dew wrote: | If you guys put as much effort into RP event planning as meetings....wow  |
I'm not sure if the emote takes the edge off of that or not...  ?
By the way, I'll be able to attend as a rep on the 29th. |
No, it doesn't take the edge off of that.  |
I'll make a smilie with your face, perhaps that will take the edge off
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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To Zero:
A meeting without any type of direction/agenda/to-do list/whatever-the-hell-you-want-to-call-it is pointless. So yes, an agenda is necessary - unless you want the guild leaders to spend hours and hours spinning their wheels. "Ok, we're all here, now what do we do?"
To Invictus:
I'm not sure we're talking about the same meeting. What meeting's "agenda was decided already as being 'a meeting held with the Guild Leaders to discuss reforming the RP community'" and when/where was that said?
To KS and Nyvveck:
I do believe I said it is my opinion that SOME people remain unguilded as an excuse to RP without consequences. The last time I checked, SOME means "an unspecified number" - NOT ALL.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| Dew wrote: | | Rinna wrote: | | Griven wrote: | | Dew wrote: | | If you guys put as much effort into RP event planning as meetings....wow |
I'm not sure if the emote takes the edge off of that or not... ?
By the way, I'll be able to attend as a rep on the 29th. |
No, it doesn't take the edge off of that. |
I'll make a smilie with your face, perhaps that will take the edge off |
Nice, Dew. Thanks for the reminder.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I would like to take this opportunity to point out how awesome I am in this conflict.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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In the immortal words of Han Solo:
"No time to discuss this in committee."
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Rinna wrote: | To Zero:
A meeting without any type of direction/agenda/to-do list/whatever-the-hell-you-want-to-call-it is pointless. So yes, an agenda is necessary - unless you want the guild leaders to spend hours and hours spinning their wheels. "Ok, we're all here, now what do we do?"
To Invictus:
I'm not sure we're talking about the same meeting. What meeting's "agenda was decided already as being 'a meeting held with the Guild Leaders to discuss reforming the RP community'" and when/where was that said? |
the guild leader meeting obviously.. hence the "a meeting held with the guild leaders...".
It was posted in the recap notes from 1st meeting in Feb. and you can't put an agenda on this meeting because the guild leaders aren't at community meetings to set one, so the broad axis set already is enough to set the wheels in motion. end of the day, we're guild leaders... we know what to do in meetings, we're not going to turn up, sit there and wait for someone to hold our hands.
and for gods sake stop being so god damn negitive.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | end of the day, we're guild leaders... we know what to do in meetings, we're not going to turn up, sit there and wait for someone to hold our hands. |
Thats pretty much my thoughts on it. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Well, I agree with Vic on this one. The purpose of the meeting (as far as I knew) was just that. So the Guild Leaders could discuss their roles in the community, in RP, and with each other.
Everyone seems really hung up on this "Lets have an agenda" thing. Why? If we can freeform RP, then a freeform meeting should be easy. |
I would have to basically agree with Zero/Vic that the general agenda should be how to get guilds interacting better for both roleplay purposes as well as general community harmony. The meeting itself is about guild interaction that being said I really only think guild leaders need to be there as, the point of the meeting is to discuss guilds not individual roleplay. I don't think we need a carved in stone agenda as the leaders in attendance should have points ready they would like to discuss.
I agree that due to our decent mix of both North American players as well as our Euro ones something on a weekend afternoon seems to make the most sense as it would hopefully give the best window for attendance from both groups. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| Zyre Mercutio wrote: | | Quote: | Well, I agree with Vic on this one. The purpose of the meeting (as far as I knew) was just that. So the Guild Leaders could discuss their roles in the community, in RP, and with each other.
Everyone seems really hung up on this "Lets have an agenda" thing. Why? If we can freeform RP, then a freeform meeting should be easy. |
I would have to basically agree with Zero/Vic that the general agenda should be how to get guilds interacting better for both roleplay purposes as well as general community harmony. The meeting itself is about guild interaction that being said I really only think guild leaders need to be there as, the point of the meeting is to discuss guilds not individual roleplay. I don't think we need a carved in stone agenda as the leaders in attendance should have points ready they would like to discuss.
I agree that due to our decent mix of both North American players as well as our Euro ones something on a weekend afternoon seems to make the most sense as it would hopefully give the best window for attendance from both groups. |
I'm in total agreement with Zyre about strongly suggesting the actual guild leaders attend, if at all possible.
For everyone: If you've EVER attended a meeting, you know an "agenda" is a list of topics that are to be covered during a meeting.
If that list contained "Iago's frill color", those present would announce the topic, and if no discussion followed, it would be skipped.
Having an agenda makes a meeting work. The point isn't a brainstorming session. When this idea was brought up, it had at least one goal in mind. The agenda will NOT limit the topics those present choose to cover, nor will it require any discussion on any of the topics. Honestly, it sounds like this is being opposed, just to be opposed to something.
All we're lookin' for is a simple list of topics we would like discussed. I HOPE no one is going to cry, when the summary of the "guild leader meeting" appears to skim over a topic that someone cared about, after being so vehemently opposed to having a simple suggested agenda.
I, personally, don't see any possible negative effect that could result in a suggested agenda. (We can probably argue there are some, but, really, let's just move on. This is ridiculous. Don't we all have enough drama in RL that we don't need to nitpick the efforts of others?)
Whatever your response to this is, Dew: That's fine. I'm expecting clever...hopefully some wit, as well. Mock me if you like, but please make me laugh.
*edited for typo*
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Fine, have an agenda, im sure discussing an agenda cant hurt anybody, think that at least you all have the first topic for it (which is in my opinion the one the guild leaders meeting was supposed to be for) "Guilds and roleplaying" that includes (but is not limited to):
- Role of each guild in the roleplaying community
- Areas of improvement
- Recap of Arcs currently running privately on each guild
To be honest i think that just by discussing 2 of those points you will have at least one hour of meeting (unless you are all talking on vent), meaning that discussing any other issues will take a lot more time and i do not really believe that people will stay for a 4 hour meeting of any sort.
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| Tsarg wrote: | Fine, have an agenda, im sure discussing an agenda cant hurt anybody, think that at least you all have the first topic for it (which is in my opinion the one the guild leaders meeting was supposed to be for) "Guilds and roleplaying" that includes (but is not limited to):
- Role of each guild in the roleplaying community
- Areas of improvement
- Recap of Arcs currently running privately on each guild
To be honest i think that just by discussing 2 of those points you will have at least one hour of meeting (unless you are all talking on vent), meaning that discussing any other issues will take a lot more time and i do not really believe that people will stay for a 4 hour meeting of any sort.
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/agree there Tsarg.
Maybe now we should move it to a new thread for agenda points to be proposed on top of the initial point of how guilds fit into the community RP
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I have no desire to spend another month or two discussing what to put on an agenda. I have no personal need to remote control the meeting or to try to guess what others will bring to the table. I am not worried about surprises, nor am I worried about fragile egos, any longer.
I do hope everyone who attends will bring as much maturity as they can muster, myself included.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| xyryn wrote: | | I have no desire to spend another month or two discussing what to put on an agenda. I have no personal need to remote control the meeting or to try to guess what others will bring to the table. I am not worried about surprises, nor am I worried about fragile egos, any longer. |
Agree. I guess that just as Vic I thought the main pourpose of the meeting was already decided. Maybe no set in stone nor published in three newspapers with the approval of the main guilds commitee, but it was pretty much clear what the meeting was about (guilds and RP in the community).
As I said before, there you have your agenda gentlemen. Work with it.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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/cheer and agree x2
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Since the majority of the non-guilded in this community are roleplayers, they should be represented...considering what will be discussed.
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