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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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I just dont see alot of different people talking in the logs.
To be blunt, bringing back Schola on Wed would go further to helping the community than the meetings do. And Schola is just an example, any sort of random RP event would do more good, IMHO.
Again, I am not trying to down play your (or anyone else) efforts, but as a person with experience, it will start to bleed if you keep banging your head on that wall. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Since nobody could tell me the last time there was a Guild Leader meeting (I did ask), I imagine it would be difficult for it to be redundant.
Vic is absolutely right. I suggested the meeting as a chance for the Guild Leaders to sit down in a Private meeting, so they could discuss the current course of their guilds, how they fit in the community, and maybe how they could better fit with each other. If your unguilded and you have something to share, bring it to the communtiy meeting and offer it up.
The idea was to have it private, so they could speak openly without worrying about outside reactions. I'm sure many of us have held on to something we wanted to say for that reason.
Its just another option to open communication. If Guilds want to use it then great, if they dont want to then thats their choice. Thats why they are the leaders.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to remeber one way back when, but I could be mistaken.
Will we see a log of this meeting or is it that private? And is there anyway you can get people to stop with the un-needed emotes, just wasted space on the log. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Dew wrote: | I seem to remeber one way back when, but I could be mistaken.
Will we see a log of this meeting or is it that private? And is there anyway you can get people to stop with the un-needed emotes, just wasted space on the log. |
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As for a post meeting log on a guild leader meeting, who knows. I guess everyone will have to agree on that as 1st point of the meeting... _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Invictus wrote: | | Dew wrote: | I seem to remeber one way back when, but I could be mistaken.
Will we see a log of this meeting or is it that private? And is there anyway you can get people to stop with the un-needed emotes, just wasted space on the log. |
post meeting editing
As for a post meeting log on a guild leader meeting, who knows. I guess everyone will have to agree on that as 1st point of the meeting... |
Oh gawd...the complications! Super secret guild leaders meetings
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I used to see the meetings as wasted time to be honest and i think i made sure everybody knew that. However after reading what has been going on here in the forums as of late regarding the meeting recaps, I have come to change my mind on that.
The logs of the meetings were always posted here in the forums since day 1 i believe and Nurian has done a great job with that, however i dont recall people using that same forum thread (the one with the meeting log posted) for further discussion.
Since i had been away from the forums some time i dont know when this actually changed, but the fact is that i see it has changed and the last two meeting logs have been a good battleground (as in not offensive but constructive) for opinions and discussion on the things that took place in the meeting.
The way i see it now i guess both things are starting to complement themselves and are beginning to work for each other in a productive way. People who want to attend the meeting do and voice ther opinions DURING the meeting, people that prefer the forums voice their opinions in the FORUM.
Another thing ive noticed is that the meetings are focusing on a more wide approach to the whole community and not just to nocturnus, which was as i remember one of the things that a group of people were against.
As for the guild leaders meeting it gets my thumbs up as long as ALL the guilds are represented in one way or another. If a guild doesnt send a leader or someone that represents them then it means that they dont care much about the community. As for the unguilded people representative i would prefer Griven instead of Zero (no offense zero i just think i know him better than i know you).
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Dew wrote: | | Invictus wrote: | | Dew wrote: | I seem to remeber one way back when, but I could be mistaken.
Will we see a log of this meeting or is it that private? And is there anyway you can get people to stop with the un-needed emotes, just wasted space on the log. |
post meeting editing
As for a post meeting log on a guild leader meeting, who knows. I guess everyone will have to agree on that as 1st point of the meeting... |
Oh gawd...the complications! Super secret guild leaders meetings
Anyone want to have a super secret Guildless Imperial Bounty Hunter Meeting with me? |
oh come on now Dew, you're making a meal out of this now, especially when it's a meeting that doesn't concern you.
Let's just figure out when the meeting will be and who will be attending for which guilds. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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/agree Vic
People are trying to help, and wether it works or not, I think thats a good thing. Dew, I'm not sure why you feel so negative about it considering you just posted a thread about Guild Leader communication not too long ago.
Tsarg, your probably right as far as using Griven if there is to be a unguilded Rep.
I see Griv as more of a neutral entity, where I myself probably fall under the "Elietist RP Dictator" category (my spelling is horrible today). My opinions are usually very strong, and I wouldn't want that to taint a good constructive meeting.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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I am not, but I think you guys get carried away with the meetings.
Funny how people jumped all over the comment zero made about RP or go home, and now I am being told the guild meeting has nothing to do with me because I am inbetween guilds right now
Anyways, my comments are more of concern that the logs might not be posted here for this guild leader meeting, the only reason that the meeting should just be leaders is beacuse of the issues having the entire guild there would cause, instead, use the forums to show what went on giving the entire guild and outsiders (like me) an idea of what went on and what was discussed.
I'll try not to be so negative from here on out, I really mean no harm, but one serious question, why not just invite all the guild reps/leaders to the next community meeting? Does it need to be seperate? _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking more about it as well, I am sorry, I tend to have that dry humor that gets taken, well, this way. So no that most of my posts are more just pokin fun. Although I dont agree with all the meetings, I do think they bring good, specially now that we further discuss here but I think it will be a long road, I dont know that you will hold everyones interest for the amount of time it will take to fix things, but kudos for trying.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Dew wrote: | I am not, but I think you guys get carried away with the meetings.
Funny how people jumped all over the comment zero made about RP or go home, and now I am being told the guild meeting has nothing to do with me because I am inbetween guilds right now
Anyways, my comments are more of concern that the logs might not be posted here for this guild leader meeting, the only reason that the meeting should just be leaders is beacuse of the issues having the entire guild there would cause, instead, use the forums to show what went on giving the entire guild and outsiders (like me) an idea of what went on and what was discussed.
I'll try not to be so negative from here on out, I really mean no harm, but one serious question, why not just invite all the guild reps/leaders to the next community meeting? Does it need to be seperate? |
To be completely selfish, yes it does.
I'm not going to get up at 2am mid week when i have to work at 8am for a meeting in game. Sorry but "the community" don't all function on US time. There are several Euro's and early birds who cannot make those meetings which might attribute to the amount of people who attend them.
Take Liisa for example, when she posts they are usually the most perfect posts for the topic at hand, but can she get to a meeting at 3am CET? It's not healthy to try.
Try shifting the times and days throughout the months and maybe more people will attend.
As for the log, i can see now that yes, it would need to be public and agee it should be after due consideration. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Recap of Community Council Meeting (02/27/08) |
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| Dew wrote: | | why not just invite all the guild reps/leaders to the next community meeting? |
They've already been invited.
| Nuri wrote: | | All guild leaders are encouraged to attend or at least send a representative. Other interested members of the community are invited to attend as well. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Again Vic, thats why the forum has always been a better medium for this, because of the timezones, some peoples play time is too short and precious to use up some of it at a meeting, trust me, mine is.
So why I feel for your timezone issue, it is easily solved by discussing it here, like you are now, by posting here, you sorta make that point
Anyways Vic, I dont want to fight anymore, wanna kiss and make up?  _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Recap of Community Council Meeting (02/27/08) |
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| Griven wrote: | | Dew wrote: | | why not just invite all the guild reps/leaders to the next community meeting? |
They've already been invited.
| Nuri wrote: | | All guild leaders are encouraged to attend or at least send a representative. Other interested members of the community are invited to attend as well. |
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so what makes everyone think they will attend a different meeting, perhaps they are like me and want to play the game with their game time, and argue on here? _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree that a recap should be posted publicly. Talking about what was discussed and if anything was decided. That would be the polite thing to do.
I would probably not agree that an actual "Chat Log" be posted. That would defeat the purpose of giving them privacy, and they would probably have to mince words and beat around any preverbial bushes to avoid an explosion once the logs were posted.
I'm taking my hands out of this cookie jar though. I'll let the Guild Leaders decide whats best. I don't have any right to say that they should have a meeting, or that they should do anything else for that matter. They're the leaders, I'm gonna get out of their way and let them lead.
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