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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually. Let me answer your question. As league commissioner you should look over everything that is submitted as trades just to keep up with what is going on. Otherwise we could have a mess. Do I think we have one yet? No. And who knows, the Bucs may light a fire on the world with the arm of Jeff Garcia. He is at least being picked in the pre-draft analysis to ring up 250+ points this season. That would put him on par with all but maybe the top 6-7 QB's.

Galloway may have a break-out season with Garcia. He's got great hands. Is his age going to catch up with him this season or will his seasoning help him get into better position than the defenders?

Steve McNair is listed as slightly better than Chad Pennington Shen. I think between the injury (last season?) and the normal ineffectiveness of a ravens O that the hopes aren't real high for him. But he has more upside the Favre.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do check all the trades individually, but if your trade was a bit in your favor, and my trade was a bit in my favor, as is someone elses, while no trade in and of itself would cause a problem not sure if the three together created an issue.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to look at a downside there will be one week he is definately understaffed because of having the majority of his team as the Bucs. He will get creamed on his bye week. That may not end up being an issue if the bucs are putting 40 points on the board every other week. Their team overall doesn't look bad this season but I don't think they have that firepower.

I think everyone else will balance out on the trades. So you have one team understaffed by choice and the rest still look pretty close if you go by the preseason/pregame predictions on output. Although, I looked at some of the players possible output, as gauged by yahoo, and I think they are expecting a lot from some players that are untested in full season starting roles. We won't really know anything until after the first three weeks with injuries and all how the draft worked out.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you want to look at a downside there will be one week he is definately understaffed because of having the majority of his team as the Bucs. He will get creamed on his bye week.


Yes, that will definitely happen and i am aware of it, However i think i will end up with only 4 bucs players (garcia, galloway, williams and clayton) as well as the defense that i just acquired from the free agency.

I dont think i will feel it too much unless i have bad luck and happen to have the bucs and another team (with players on my team) to have the byw week at the same time.


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That may not end up being an issue if the bucs are putting 40 points on the board every other week. Their team overall doesn't look bad this season but I don't think they have that firepower.


Yeah, im pretty sure they dont have that firepower this year unless Clayton and Boston have a HUGE season receiving and williams has a much better season than last year. The problem i see this year is the OL which has shown to be unable to push forward so that the HB can actually gain some yardage.


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I think everyone else will balance out on the trades. So you have one team understaffed by choice and the rest still look pretty close if you go by the preseason/pregame predictions on output.


Yes after seing all the teams they look pretty balanced to me, even after the trades im offering you guys. Hey, im in this for fun im not in this to win, that is why i am having the best players from my favourite team playing for me. Call me stupid, call me punk, idiot, call me what you will, but i have high hopes for my team this season and i wish we can get into the playoffs.

Without Vick in Atlanta i think we have a chance this year cool


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trade of Clayton and Garcia for NcNair and Witten is extremely lopsided. Witten is a second tier TE, and McNair is expected to put up mid to upper tier number by everybody, while Garcia and Clayton are expected to be middle of the pack at best...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw your trade proposal, but carnell williams who had a not so good year last season (and this season is in doubt tdue to th eoffensive line of the bucs) for tory holt who is a top notch receiver doesnt seem too balanced for me. I could trade you wiliams for santonio holmes woh looks like he is going to have a good year at the WR position (since i thought you needed WR's). If you dont need WR's take a look at my team and maybe we can work something out.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Saw your trade proposal, but carnell williams who had a not so good year last season (and this season is in doubt tdue to th eoffensive line of the bucs) for tory holt who is a top notch receiver doesnt seem too balanced for me. I could trade you wiliams for santonio holmes woh looks like he is going to have a good year at the WR position (since i thought you needed WR's). If you dont need WR's take a look at my team and maybe we can work something out.


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Wasn't expecting the Holt trade to go through, just wanted you to know what I needed...I'll see what I can do. Is Holt available in a possible package?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i think the Holt trade depends on wether i get Galloway and Clayton or not. If i get them both i will be using them as starting WR's and i will only have one free spot for starting WR which could be easily filled with wither steve smith or lee evans, or even santonio holmes which as i said is bound to have a good season. I am not worried about WRs since i think i have a good team on that.

So maybe we can work out a deal package. Let me check out your team to see if i find something i like.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wasn't expecting the Holt trade to go through, just wanted you to know what I needed...I'll see what I can do. Is Holt available in a possible package?


Dang man, you have few players i could choose from, most of all because you have like 8 RB's in it so that doesnt leave me many options. One thing we could do is make the following trade:

Tory Holt (WR) + Randy McMichael (TE)

in exchange for

Carnell Williams (RB) + Antonio Gates (TE)

That way you would get free of one of your many RB's and you would get one of the best WR in the game today (which you need desperately) and would be trading one of the best TE in the game for another.

I think the trade would be pretty balancedor i might even be getting the short end but just by a slight margin (the difference in fan points would be 20 points in your favour), but i would like to hear some opinions from the guys.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McMicheal was an upper tier TE two years ago, now has middle tier fantasy value on a good week, especially in a St. Louis offense that features Holt, Stephen Jackson and Isaac Bruce.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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McMicheal was an upper tier TE two years ago, now has middle tier fantasy value on a good week, especially in a St. Louis offense that features Holt, Stephen Jackson and Isaac Bruce.


BRUCE!

....sorry, got a lil' carried away there..... big grin

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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McMicheal was an upper tier TE two years ago, now has middle tier fantasy value on a good week, especially in a St. Louis offense that features Holt, Stephen Jackson and Isaac Bruce.


Ok, hit me up with a counter offer that doesnt include any RB other than Williams big grin big grin big grin


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its a WR you need I'd give ya Toomer for Jackson, but I can't trade up a Packer#1 and definitely not their star receiver (Driver) for an unproven RB. I just want the guy cause he's GB - he may turn out to be stellar and he may do zip on an offense stacked with targets for Favre's arm.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly my point. I wont give a 1st tier WR like Holt just for a RB, even if that RB is williams.

I offered deime that trade cause i saw an option to balance the high value of Holt with his TE and i would give him a TE too so he wasnt left with only RB's on his team.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RB's are always valued higher then WR's being that they are a more consistent source of points. With Holt, I have 3 RB's on my roster I would take before him in a draft, especially with the league not getting points for receptions.

I am in no rush to make a move, but I am looking for an upper tier WR for one of my RB. Anyone interested make me an offer.
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