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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aaarrrrgghhhhhhh!!!!

Head hurts ..... must ...... rest .......... now.

This replicant thing is confusing me more everyday......

Cheers.


Just remember, there is someone running this part of the show. While we my speculate and say "It could be this way", they have the final say. If he says no, then it's no.

I just hope "The Force" doesn't become the Star Wars equivalent of "Jordi's visor".


Oh nonono, i didnt mean i was a replicant or anything else, i just meant that i am really confused by all this replicant thing i trully do not understand anything and the more i read the more confused i get..... frown

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsarg wrote:
Isleh wrote:
Tsarg wrote:
Aaarrrrgghhhhhhh!!!!

Head hurts ..... must ...... rest .......... now.

This replicant thing is confusing me more everyday......

Cheers.


Just remember, there is someone running this part of the show. While we my speculate and say "It could be this way", they have the final say. If he says no, then it's no.

I just hope "The Force" doesn't become the Star Wars equivalent of "Jordi's visor".


Oh nonono, i didnt mean i was a replicant or anything else, i just meant that i am really confused by all this replicant thing i trully do not understand anything and the more i read the more confused i get..... frown

Cheers.


Just shoot all the red dots on the radar, they're replicants! Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isleh wrote:
Tsarg wrote:
Isleh wrote:
Tsarg wrote:
Aaarrrrgghhhhhhh!!!!

Head hurts ..... must ...... rest .......... now.

This replicant thing is confusing me more everyday......

Cheers.


Just remember, there is someone running this part of the show. While we my speculate and say "It could be this way", they have the final say. If he says no, then it's no.

I just hope "The Force" doesn't become the Star Wars equivalent of "Jordi's visor".


Oh nonono, i didnt mean i was a replicant or anything else, i just meant that i am really confused by all this replicant thing i trully do not understand anything and the more i read the more confused i get..... frown

Cheers.


Just shoot all the red dots on the radar, they're replicants! Twisted Evil

JK!



eek eek eek

No, no! Shoot the blue dots...the blue dots!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please refer to Chop Suey...

There is a meeting called for 8 pm, EDT, tonite. It is an attempt to start pooling information that Jabe said was out there. The set-up of the meeting is such that anyone interested can either be a part, or can be listening.

The clandestine Mayor of Nocturnus called the meeting.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this going to take place even with the restuss battle taking place??


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, I would have to pass to go help crash the server, not often we get actual content, cant pass that up big grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, personally, did not know about this Restuss battle, until this morning. I don't know about the others.

Both of my characters are neutral, I'm a Twi'lek. sly wink

When is the battle? How long will it last?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what i heard it is going to be at around 8:00 PM and it should last for about 1 hour or so (thats the information i got from friends in Radiant).


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw this thread just now... oops.

All I can really say is I tried to choose the least "hoky" way of making the replicants work while not allowing one person to just sorta figure it out and put an immediate end to it.

I would think a Jedi could be sensitive to the replicant chatter - but for this event its not necessarily happening.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just saw this thread just now... oops.

All I can really say is I tried to choose the least "hoky" way of making the replicants work while not allowing one person to just sorta figure it out and put an immediate end to it.

I would think a Jedi could be sensitive to the replicant chatter - but for this event its not necessarily happening.

Jabe


Sorry but it still seems hokey to me..DNA is DNA dead or alive. I just pray for your sake when we DO find out how to distinguish one it isn't something we suggested that was discounted because "That won't work". Razz If a Jedi could be sensitive to the chatter than I think several would have had ooc tells letting them know...considering how many Jedi-like folk are in noc at any given time one or more would have felt something by now. Considering there was a whole "War" with these things at an earlier point in time one would think the survivors would know more about them. I get the distinct feeling no one knows anymore now than they did back then...

/shrug

I'm all for a good story, which I think this is btw. I'm just not into dragging things out for the sake of dragging them out if you know what I mean. That's just my opinion smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's more along the lines of getting things set for the finale, at least of this chapter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reguarding Midichlorians:

I think it is reasonable to think that Lucas either borrowed the idea of midichlorians from, or he was in the same discussion group as, Madeleine Engals. Ref: A Swiftly Tilting Planet and its sequels.

IF that is the case, then the midichlorians are related to mitochondria. Mitochondria convert glucose to energy and nourish the body's cells. Therefore, the higher the concentration of midichlorians, the higher the energy level...the more able to use the force, the more sensitive to the force.

The analogy is not perfect, but then, neither was Lucas' understanding of science. Not having read the books, I'm unable comment on the grasp of science and medicine that the writers had. However, reading extracts and quotes from the EU would indicate that most were about on Lucas' level.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree Xyryn. I think thats a pretty good analogy actually.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shensen this post is not entirely directed at you...

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Sorry but it still seems hokey to me..DNA is DNA dead or alive.


OOC: DNA plays no role in the current replication process. Its completely technological and there is a reason you just can't "find a chip" or something using traditional scans.

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I just pray for your sake when we DO find out how to distinguish one it isn't something we suggested that was discounted because "That won't work". Razz


The event has been a planned one. Those are the breaks. Look at all the story arcs that don't come to a close or just get abandoned. A lot of times its because there is no central authority making the decisions. Everyone here seems to think they know how roleplay should work, yet I am employing the oldest RP models in existence (GM and Player) and people seem to be upset that they can't remold the event.

I think this is the biggest weakness in this community is that individual arcs aren't "owned" by a person willing to take responsibility for them (mostly). They are just sorta out there and they either live or die on their own.

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If a Jedi could be sensitive to the chatter than I think several would have had ooc tells letting them know...considering how many Jedi-like folk are in noc at any given time one or more would have felt something by now.


I am NOT giving Jedi any breaks on this event. In all honesty if anything happens in regards to the Jedi, I am going to put them through hell and back. The Jedi are supposed to be in hiding, not running around in robes. The replicants clearly see the Jedi as a threat and Fierith has told NocSec he sees them that way. The Jedi will have the same abilites to end the event as a level 1 entertainer does, which will be primarily through RP.

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Considering there was a whole "War" with these things at an earlier point in time one would think the survivors would know more about them. I get the distinct feeling no one knows anymore now than they did back then...


I don't know what else I have to do. I have given information to people who have sought it:

1) Whar set up monitoring in cloning facilities. Because of that he has discovered an unused copy of the device that causes replication. He has this intact device that makes a replicant and he knows how it probably works. You could create your own replicant in a controlled environment and understand the basics of them from A-Z, but it seems no one has considered that yet.

2) E-bo (an ex-replicant) can still hear voices from the replicant hive and she has made that known to close friends who won't lynch her. She will be an invaluable tool in the days to come as I will allow pertinent information to come from her.

3) Hojo approached Jabe on Tuesday night and asked Jabe some hard hitting questions about the last replicant war (who would have thought). Jabe was hesitant but Hojo pressed him and he opened up. Hojo is now on the verge of having enough information to start the first offensive which will be a space PvP event.

4) Fierith Braun was captured and has spent several hours with Nyvveck being questioned as well as at least 3 hours with NocSec officials dumping off loads of information on what is happening with the replicants right now.

5) A grieving father looking for his replicated children has showed up in Nocturnus looking for them. They were medical students on Corellia and were about to master a new nanoprobe technology that can affect the brain. This is a huge clue.

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I'm all for a good story, which I think this is btw. I'm just not into dragging things out for the sake of dragging them out if you know what I mean. That's just my opinion smile


I am sorry if I am coming off a bit unnerved. But I have given away a ton of info. People aren't sharing information. I have tried convincing more than one person to establish themselves as a central information authority. I have posted general updates in the replicant war update thread and have encouraged others to share their information there.

People have dozens of reason to RP replicant related stuff for hours on end right now. Whar has information to use and he can fall back on me if he has questions about any detail, Hojo will soon as well. I am available in and out of game to answer questions and make judgement calls. I am doing my best to reward people with information who are trying to investigate the replicants. Whar and Hojo are good examples of that - they put me in a position to release info or point them in the right direction. I am sorry other people have tried things that didn't work out.

I had hoped this would give entities like NocSec something to do, like interview people and perhaps create an information database of their own. If that's not going to happen then I'll just have to spell everything out in the update thread like I am doing in this post.

I am open to criticism but being told that no one knows anymore than they did a week ago or even a month ago really pisses me off. People expecting that another solution should work (in their own judgement) is also annoying to no end. The suggestion that there is going to be poo flinging if I don't have a good enough explanation after the end of the event just sucks. If you're in that state of mind, then you don't "get it" and never will. Its not about "winning" - its about enjoying what is happening along the way. If anyone is concerned that something they tried should have worked and that they may get pissed when all is revealed in a month or so from now - then stop trying. Someone in that state of mind is likely to be sorely disappointed. I am making these things as feasible as possible but I am not going to fold the event because some Jedi can hear things or some super-slicer cracked the code in 5 minutes. There are no superheroes in this event, its going to take every single person in the community to work together to make progress. After all the replicants are a threat to all of you.

I am trying to give people a reason to have fun and RP, I will not get stuck debating the legitimacy of fictional technology.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one think that the replicant story arc is going great.

Now, I havn't actually done much on the whole replicant side of things, but the arc allows me to do a lot of things that I would have been hard pressed to find reasons for had the arc not been there (everyone get all that? ...seems confusing to me, and I wrote it...).

It's given me an excuse to try and provoke some factional RPvP, as well as given me a stepping stone to start doing some things with Nyvveck I've been looking forward to.

I can understand that some people's point of view will probably be different than mine. I see the replicant arc as something sort of happening in the background, not something that should take up all my time.

As for information...yeah, I have a little bit...and yeah, I'm not sharing. I'm sorry if this goes against Jabe's plans for the event, but Nyvveck trusts no one in Nocturnus (he very slightly trusts the Kiva...but not much). As such, he's not willing to give them information.
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