
kaezden
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Florida weatherit was 90 frikin degrees today and yesterday, and the day before that, in the middle of frikin january...90 degress...COME ON!!!! thats insane...i dont even get a slight chill, not even at nite...luckily a coldfront is supposedly hitting tomorow.
florida has 4 seasons...hot, and hotter, hottest, and hotter-ist
and no i dont beleive in global warming, because last year it was freezing, and the year before that was warm...sooo lol
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Dew
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I believe green house gases come from Trev, and now his daughter
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xyryn
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Actually, the weather this year can be blamed on El Nino.
But yes, there is a global warming going on...the real debate is just how much we humans are actually contributing to a natural cycle. Forget the politics. Look at the science.
You all know about the Vikings. Here's a little packet of data that explains why they erupted out of the north when they did.
400 Common Era (AD for you older folk), the planet was warm enough that the Scandinavians were farming north of the Arctic Circle. But it had already started to cool down...global cooling.
By 780, CE, things had become so cold that the majority of the Scandinavians had migrated south, those who had survived the global cooling. They were packed into what land could be farmed in the much shorter growing season. They had to find ways to sustain the population they had left...and the Viking Era began.
But Global Cooling hadn't stopped, the planet continued to cool down. In the 14th century, CE, there was a 73 year period where things were especially cold. In Europe, the huddling together in cities, the amount of clothing worn, and the imported (from the Holy Land) idea of communal bathing, enhanced the destruction of the 3 visits of the Black Death.
(The Black Death (the real Plague) vectors in many cities were the communal bathing houses. Not knowing the disease was spread by fleas, the people of the time decided that bathing was the cause of the Plague...and stopped bathing.)
That was also the century which saw the transformation of the eastern Asian grasslands into what we call the Gobi Desert. The Norse settlers of Greenland disappeared.
Things warmed up for awhile, but the planet was still cooling, especially in the northern hemisphere. The Mini-Ice Age is considered to have started in the second third of the 16th century, CE. Travelers noted the advance of the Alpine glaciers and began some very worried reporting on the destruction of Swiss and Scandinavian villages.
The Mini-Ice Age lasted until the middle of the 19th century, CE, when Global Warming ACTUALLY started. The Swiss, Icelandic, Alaskan and Greenland glaciers stopped advancing and began retreating. The icepacks of both poles began to thin.
Just food for thought.
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eboobi
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I believe that we are in a period of global warming. I do not believe that humanity alone is the cause or that even if we stayed pre-industrial that anything would be different now than it was then.
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Dew
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| xyryn wrote: | Actually, the weather this year can be blamed on El Nino.
But yes, there is a global warming going on...the real debate is just how much we humans are actually contributing to a natural cycle. Forget the politics. Look at the science.
You all know about the Vikings. Here's a little packet of data that explains why they erupted out of the north when they did.
400 Common Era (AD for you older folk), the planet was warm enough that the Scandinavians were farming north of the Arctic Circle. But it had already started to cool down...global cooling.
By 780, CE, things had become so cold that the majority of the Scandinavians had migrated south, those who had survived the global cooling. They were packed into what land could be farmed in the much shorter growing season. They had to find ways to sustain the population they had left...and the Viking Era began.
But Global Cooling hadn't stopped, the planet continued to cool down. In the 14th century, CE, there was a 73 year period where things were especially cold. In Europe, the huddling together in cities, the amount of clothing worn, and the imported (from the Holy Land) idea of communal bathing, enhanced the destruction of the 3 visits of the Black Death.
(The Black Death (the real Plague) vectors in many cities were the communal bathing houses. Not knowing the disease was spread by fleas, the people of the time decided that bathing was the cause of the Plague...and stopped bathing.)
That was also the century which saw the transformation of the eastern Asian grasslands into what we call the Gobi Desert. The Norse settlers of Greenland disappeared.
Things warmed up for awhile, but the planet was still cooling, especially in the northern hemisphere. The Mini-Ice Age is considered to have started in the second third of the 16th century, CE. Travelers noted the advance of the Alpine glaciers and began some very worried reporting on the destruction of Swiss and Scandinavian villages.
The Mini-Ice Age lasted until the middle of the 19th century, CE, when Global Warming ACTUALLY started. The Swiss, Icelandic, Alaskan and Greenland glaciers stopped advancing and began retreating. The icepacks of both poles began to thin.
Just food for thought. |
I hope you had to look some of that up, or else you head is really really HUGE
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Jmac
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I live in Canada. It's January and it's +10 Celcius outside and people are playing golf outside my window. Either it's global warming or the world has just gone mad. Even El Nino isn't strong enough to do this kind of stuff.
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Nuri
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Ok, I think it's time to let out a little secret. It's not Global Warming so much as we folks in Arizona deciding to share some our glorious heat with the rest of the world that isn't as fortunate as us to live in AZ.
We have decided to make "Hot" are main export. And to be friendly we are giving it away for free. For now anyway.
In seriousness, I don't think I am qualified to comment on global warming as I have heard studies on both sides whic sounded equally convincing. (My sister has a grad degree in geology/geogrpahy and this was a big topic for her.)
It does seem that AZ has been having milder summers the last few years with fewer days when the highs hit 115 or even 110. So maybe my comment about exporting "Hot" is not so far fetched.
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Oniss
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Yes, Florida sucks, But where I am its actually staying fairly cool
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