Recap Of The Community Council Meeting (3-12-08)

Cryil · Admiral Karma: Add Karma Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 799

Here is brief rundown/recap of the meeting held 03/12/08 at 9 PM EDT.

Next Community Council Meeting: None scheduled at this time.

Attendees: Nurian, Rinna' Xen'ya, Barraac
Quick Summary of Topics Discussed and Decisions Reached:

Discussed more on the guild leader meeting, and putting the Community Council Meetings to an end for the time being.
No current discussions are Scheduled.

Notes:
There are no current scheduled discussions.

To suggest a topic for the next meeting please go to this thread: Topics for Community Council Meeting

As usual, if you have any questions or suggestions, PLEASE PM ME
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Cryil · Admiral Karma: Add Karma Joined: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 799

Nurian Avari nods at Bar Rag.
xen'ya says, "!"
Barraac says, "Xen'ya?" in Shyriiwook.
xen'ya says, "What do we have left to thrash out?"
Rinna Bek'kai says, "!"
xen'ya says, "doen"
Barraac says, "Rinna" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Apparrently, nothing. Although I think the lack of an agenda is going to be a large hinderance."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "I recognize that it can't be forced, but I have yet to witness any type of meeting be productive without one. I firmly believe it's a mistake to try and go forward without one."
Barraac says, "(Afk a sec)" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Yes, there are topics, but not an actual agenda - that requires a VERB. Otherwise, I guess it's just a bunch of discussion."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "(('sokay - I'm not done anyway))"
xen'ya says, "!"
Barraac says, "(back)" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "However, I bow to the vocal group who disagrees - but I will do so under duress."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "done"
Barraac says, "Xen'ya" in Shyriiwook.
xen'ya says, "I think that just determining the desire of the majority of the community for which direction we will evolve, and IF the people are willing to work on it will be ..."
xen'ya says, "more than enough to take us all afternoon."
xen'ya says, "If we make up an agenda with a bunch of things on it...we will feel obligated to address them, and they might not be pertinent."
at ''talk about this'' or ''discuss that'' is enough.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "!"
xen'ya says, "done"
Barraac says, "Rinna" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Thank you, KS, for finally articulating that. An agenda doesn't have to have a bunch of things on it - but it has to have at least SOMEthing, or else we run the risk of wasting everyone's time. I'd rather avoid yet another opportunity for that accusation"
Rinna Bek'kai says, "to be made."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "If we're done with that subject, I'd like to bring up another. I will wait to be sure, though."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Done"
Barraac says, "Anyone feel they need to bring up anything else about the guildleader meeting and its agenda?" in Shyriiwook.
Nurian Avari says, "Nope"
Barraac says, "Xen'ya?" in Shyriiwook.
xen'ya says, "I pass to Rinna."
Barraac nods at xen'ya.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Be sure, please, because this is a completely different topic."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "I'm proposing that we end these community meetings, as regular events."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "For the last several months, they've been attended by the same 4-6 people."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Those people are all active members of the GC forum."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "These meetings, and by extension, those of us who attend them and try to get others to do so, have been denigrated, ridiculed, and deemed useless."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "I am sure that the regular attendees have other things they'd rather be doing. I know I do, especially after the last few weeks."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "It wouldn't take any large effort to reinstate them, should a need arise."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "They were started in order to get input from EVERYONE in the community, including those who don't frequent the GC forums."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "I don't see that being a problem anymore."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Based on these reasons, I move that the regular community meetings be ended."
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Done."
xen'ya says, "!"
Nurian Avari says, "I'll second so we can open it for discussion."
Barraac says, "Xen'ya?" in Shyriiwook.
xen'ya says, "I agree that these can be reinstated at any time, and see no reason to continue them. Rinna is correct."
Barraac says, "Then I see no reason to put it to a vote" in Shyriiwook.
Barraac says, "Does anyone else have anything else to say on the subject?" in Shyriiwook.
Nurian Avari says, "We should still put it to a vote to be official."
Barraac says, "Alright" in Shyriiwook.
Barraac says, "All those In favor Of ending the Meetings, say yay, those not in favor, say nay" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Yay"
xen'ya says, "Yay."
Nurian Avari says, "I abstain."
Barraac says, "As Moderator, I dont get a vote, therefore the yay's have it" in Shyriiwook.
Nurian Avari nods at Bar Rag.
Barraac says, "Alright, this meeting is over" in Shyriiwook.
Rinna Bek'kai says, "Thanks for moderating, Mr. Bar Rag"
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Invictus · Admiral Karma: Add Karma Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 819

so 4-6 people choose the best options for the community.

great...

why not just adjust the times and be FLEXIBLE to a community instead of being RIDGED and have them at the same time each week knowing full well the same 4-6 people are going to attend.

and before you say "raise it as an agenda point" from the clear attendance ratings, it shouldn't have to be raised. commone sense prevails, i'd hope.

rotate the days and times and i am sure you'd get better attendance.

better yet, poll the community here on why they are not going to the meetings.
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Griven · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:09 am Post subject:

They don't plan on having any more, so it's a moot point.
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xyryn · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject:

We have not planned any more meetings. This does not mean that a meeting cannot be called, by anyone in the community, at any time. We have a built-in moderator, Barraac, until the middle of May.

Let's see what happens in the guild leader meeting.
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cylestya · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject:

I am sorry I have not been able to make the meetings as of lately. Due to the hours and time I have other priorities in RL that I have to attend to these days.

I have scheduled in the Guild leaders meeting though but like I said IF something comes up I will let you all know ASAP.

Thanks,
Cyl
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Iago · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject:

Dew · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:

I have an agenda:

"What Community"

Discuss.....
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Shensenn · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:59 am Post subject:

There are enough people here, in game, still playing that consider this, themselves, or both their community. It is what it is and the bitter pills don't help anything Dew. I know smile

Take the "If you don't have anything positive to say, don't say anything" approach. Life has been much easier here.
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Dew · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject:

Kuri · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject:

Dew · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:

Shensenn · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject:

I would nod as well but it would probaby hurt so I'll give the thumright

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