An Update from Hanse (Jedi)

Sai'nu · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: An Update from Hanse (Jedi)

Valara had to lock down the GU 3 Preview due to trolling but Hanse did fill us in a little more today:

Clicky, schwing!

While I was posting in the Pilot thread, their fix really is about specific figures and did not need much work to complete (on my end, on QA's end they're working like nuts, I'm sure). So, I worked on the stance (light side) side of the tree yesterday. I'm almost complete with it and hope to finish it today.

Luckily, I will be spending more time working on Jedi than the original quote that I mentioned at the beginning of our discussions, so we'll be seeing a lot more done than originally quoted. Also, we have more than one designer working on Jedi and we have had a programmer go through and fix some bugs for y'all.

Now, I mentioned before that you are getting two new abilities. These are actually special actions. Behind the scenes, you're getting more than two new abilities. Added to the left side of the tree is a new box called "Perceptive Sentinel". This box adds a further 5% per point spent up to 20% hate generation on top of your stance buff. Let me know your thoughts on that addition. It's a prerequisite for Forsake Fear (taking the place of Soothing Aura, which moved further down the tree to Tier 5, as Soothing Aura is too powerful to be a Tier 2 box).

Anticipate Aggression is now 2 points and is a reduction of 4% per point (8% maximum from 6%).

Later today, I will be adding a new passive ability Riposte and active ability Saber Reflect.

So, we'll be looking at four new additions to the left side of the Path tree. While I'm working furiously over the last three boxes today, discuss! smile

PS: I've spoken to Valara about the negativity in these threads. I respond to positive threads. If I get quiet, it's probably because you've driven me off. Please try to keep this thread positive, so I can continue talking to you. If you do not like something, put a positive spin on it by suggesting something else in its place (that's reasonable) instead of tearing me apart. smile

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Sai'nu · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Just a bump to the Jedi within our community. You really might want to take a look at the proposed changes flowing out from Blix/Hanse in the Jedi forum now as there are some sweeping changes being discussed.

Jedi Forum

Shouldn't be hard to find. Many player made threads have sprung from it but your looking for threads started by Hanse and Blix.
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Meh · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:00 am Post subject:

Definitely want. Do not not want. :D

Seriously, when will they just see the light like I did and make combat in SWG go FPS style?

Kidding. It might be fun to try, though.
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Sai'nu · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:

Want to see the game completely take a dive? Make it a 100% forced FPS experience. Many of us would drop it like a hot potato. Not that NGE hasn't already come pretty close to doing that but we had to fight tooth and nail to get some auto targeting and other features that attracted us to the game in the first place added back in. The lesson learned? Don't try to please the customers you don't have. Please the ones you do have.

It remains to be seen how "good" this re-tooling of Jedi will be. They've sunk a lot of time into it so it will be going to TC then Live. But I think they've tried to make a few compromises even though some of us are still seeing changes we didn't ask for in the update. (We've come to call this the from one extreme to another extreme "fix" these days)

I went from very queezy to feeling a bit indifferent about it now. Time will tell if the changes were a mistake or not after this next chapter goes Live and this hits TC.

On the flip side the BH update is looking pretty damn good.
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saber reflect?
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Salocin · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:25 am Post subject:

I don't think I see how these changes could be bad in any way. The only legitimate complaint I have read is that it creates only two or three real template options. However, that's still one or two more than Jedi has now, so I don't have an issue with that.

The Dark Side heal, Force Drain, scares me. A lot of people have been talking about how it seems to make Dark Jedi overpowered, but they seem to be focusing on the fact that it can critical and ignoring the fact that it can be dodged, parried, glancing blow, or blocked. If you're a Dark Jedi fighting a BH, Jedi, or even Medic (if you're not paying attention), you could easily die for lack of healing ability (commando as well, not having DoT immunity will hurt).

Overall, the only real gripe I have with the changes is that they seem to lock you lightside or darkside. However, the only thing that's been specifically commented on about that is that you cannot use lightning or maelstrom in a stance. If that's all, I will be very happy when this hits live.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen master boxes or some general tree updates. But, you can only do so much in the amount of time they had.
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